Legal Tweets

Is social media use worthwhile if you don't have a blog?

nikiblack: ->@GrantGriffiths -in wave convo u said soc med is tool 2 promote blog & blogs are not SM tool. Not sure I agree-that's 1 way to use SM & blogs

nikiblack: ->@GrantGriffiths Thought that was interesting issue & wanted 2 throw it out there 4 discussion. That's not how I discuss blogs in SM book.

GrantGriffiths: @nikiblack A blog should be at the center of your web presence. Social networking tools are just that, tools to grow your blog

nikiblack: @GrantGriffiths Blogs don't work for everyone. Some don't like to write. SOcial media can still work for them & be their online presence.

GrantGriffiths: @nikiblack Blogging doesn't mean you have to write a law review article every time you touch the keyboard. Blogging is as simple...

GrantGriffiths: @nikiblack You can not totally engage nor build trust with your target audience on social networking tools alone like twitter or facebook

nikiblack: @GrantGriffiths I'm all 4blogging, but don't think it works for everyone. Preferably, it's anchor of web presence, but not necessary

JayFleischman: @nikiblack @GrantGriffiths Not necessary? In a world of self-identified prospects seeking relevant, timely and reliable unique information?

JayFleischman: @nikiblack @GrantGriffiths An online presence without a content generation mentality is doomed to failure. Period.

GrantGriffiths: @nikiblack You can not get the amount of information needed with social networking tools alone. They guide and direct them to blog

DisabilityGuy: @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack Social Networking was gateway drug 2 a blog 4 me. Found I needed additional ways to expand conversation

DisabilityGuy: @nikiblack @GrantGriffiths I'm on Social Media 2 learn & interact, blog 2 educate. Social Media helps blog, but not only reason 2 use SM

DisabilityGuy: @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman @nikiblack Facebook has more eyes than most blogs will ever C. Filled w/ calls 2 action (causes fan pages etc

uMCLE: Agree w/ @GrantGriffiths that blog as base for social networking optimal but like @DisabilityGuy can be effect & not cause of SN @nikiblack

nikiblack: @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @DisabilityGuy I agree blogs shld be base, but don't have to be. Can get a lot out of SM w/out a blog as well.

DisabilityGuy: @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman @nikiblack @uMCLE Every Facebook LinkedIn & Twitter friend doesn't read blog, but I can still influence on SM

JayFleischman: @DisabilityGuy @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack Only if they see you, Steven. Blog gets them in, SM keeps them in your sphere.

nikiblack: @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman Not everyone enjoys writing-it's a chore for some. Can be detrimental if not good at it.

nikiblack: @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman SM serves many purposes--one of those goals is to get clients.

nikiblack: @DisabilityGuy @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths I disagree that blog has to be center. Don't think center of my SM presence is my blogs

JayFleischman: @nikiblack @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths Only tangentially. Goal of SM is to establish relationships IMO.

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack Actually opposite 4 me, SM has driven 2 my blog. Still more eyes from SM than blog 4 me

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack Most I interact w/ daily on SM, not interested in my specialty blog

JayFleischman: @DisabilityGuy @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack And how did they get to you on FB?

nikiblack: @DisabilityGuy @uMCLE @JayFleischman @GrantGriffiths The find u on FB via ur email contacts, not ur blog.

nikiblack: @DisabilityGuy @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman Also, IMO, blogs= form of SM--interaction platform, user generated content via comments

GrantGriffiths: @nikiblack I have to say you are most likely in the minority with that position.

nikiblack: @GrantGriffiths Not so Grant--Wikipedia agrees with me--blogs are a form of social media: http://bit.ly/1xAtG4

uMCLE: @nikiblack Absolutely. Blogs def SM. More relevant as base for professionals, not personal @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman

uMCLE: Some of my most meaningful relationships on Facebook don't blog and don't have to @nikiblack @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman

JayFleischman: @uMCLE @nikiblack @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths But aren't we speaking about professional development, not personal?

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @nikiblack @GrantGriffiths Hard 4 me 2 separate prof. development from personal. As attorney, personal leads to prof

uMCLE: If prof vs pers established earlier, apologize for missing when rudely jumped in :) @JayFleischman @nikiblack @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths

nikiblack: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths Totally agree w/ @DisabilityGuy- prof-al & personal overlap greatly

JayFleischman: @nikiblack @uMCLE @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths (E)very single SM expert I've ever seen says blog is the hub, SM is a spoke.

nikiblack: @JayFleischman @GrantGriffiths @uMCLE @DisabilityGuy SM is about connections, old & new--and maintaining them. Not just abt new ones

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @nikiblack @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths Facebook Personal relationships have brought new people 2 my sphere by sharing about prof

nikiblack: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @DisabilityGuy IMO, hub/spoke formula is most effective one, but not the only one, by any means

JayFleischman: @DisabilityGuy @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack OK, so how do you bring in new people who have zero prior exposure to you? Blog or SM?

nikiblack: @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman @DisabilityGuy Either blog, Twitter, FB, LinkedIn, online forums, listserv or all of the above;)

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @GrantGriffiths @uMCLE Ideally agree w/ @nikiblack should use SM & Blog, but not sure 1 more important than other. Both work

JayFleischman: @nikiblack @uMCLE @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths True, but why engage in activities that are less effective? Tangentially, maybe.

nikiblack: @DisabilityGuy @GrantGriffiths @JayFleischman @uMCLE Bec different personalities are more suited 2 diff. SM mediums-No reason to force it

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths @nikiblack All 4 of U R interacting w/ me solely from SM. U may've read blog, but discovered from SM

DisabilityGuy: @JayFleischman w/ ur reasoning, blog is least effective 4 me presently, so I should just use SM @nikiblack @uMCLE @GrantGriffiths

Tidbits from the Law Firm Leadership Conference #lflc

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: As lawyers we tend to romanticize our profession--idealize it. We can continue to uphold dignity of it, but accept reality

Rotenberg: #LFLC Susskind: traditional lawyers will always be needed for deep expertise and complex communication

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: If you an see ways you can work differently, you should do it bec if you don't, your competitors will

jordan_law21: Susskind: Five-stage progression of legal work: bespoke (customized), standardized, systematized, packaged, and commoditized (free): #lflc

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: The drive towards commoditization pre-dates the economic downturn

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: If non-lawyers controlled the delivery of legal services, things would (will) look much different

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Disruptive technology--new technologies may not help us as lawyers-they disrupt the way we work-but can't ignore them

ARotenberg: #LFLC: Susskind: need to look at multi sourcing, client facing technology, collaboration, and e-learning

jordan_law21: Susskind: Decomposing legal tasks into divisible blocks, ask: what's best way to execute each block? #lflc

jordan_law21: Susskind: Litigation is: doc review, research, project mgmt, lit. support, e-discovery, strategy, tactics, negotiation, advocacy... #lflc

ARotenberg: #LFLC: Susskind: project management lies at the heart of the legal industry of the future

ARotenberg: #LFLC: Susskind: Axion providing 'lease a lawyer' system. Experienced, cheaper lawyers providing expertise on a contract basis for less cost

ARotenberg: #LFLC Susskind: future of legal services lies in giving access to the firm's internal knowledge systems

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Most important business impact 4 lawyers-new ways of delivering legal services-virtual law office, turn knowledge into value

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Knowledge management used to be internal issue--now external--sharing knowledge with clients

ARotenberg: #LFLC: Susskind: Firms should take a cue from British Airways- investment in technology is on the client side, not internally

jordan_law21: Lamb: "This will be too hard" is lawyerly response. Ask instead: "How can I be 1st to change and profit therefrom?" #lflc

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: It's not about pricing differently--it's about working differently. (!!!)

ARotenberg: #LFLC Maclean: innovative law firm fee calculator: http://bit.ly/2h3RJ9

nikiblack: #lflc MacLean: Clients don't care about ur profit, cost--they only care about the cost/value to them

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Any lawyer who takes time to research tech agrees that it changes legal practice-those who disagree are reacting emotionally

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Lawyers should be responding to new challenges by embracing emerging technologies, not ignoring them

ARotenberg: #LFLC Susskind: new jobs for lawyers will emerge- eg. legal risk managers, legal process analysts, legal knowledge engineers

ARotenberg: #LFLC Susskind: Newbies don't need to do routine tasks hundreds of times in the name of education. Don't confuse exploitation with training

ARotenberg: #LFLC Lamb: Younger third of the firm is less attached to status quo. Give them the opportunity to lead the charge to change

nikiblack #lflc Susskind: e-learning. ... Why don't we use online learning as we should (I say--#SPU anyone?)

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: Talking about Twitter and its value to lawyers because their clients are on it, if for no other reason.

nikiblack: #lflc Susskind: The enemy who kills you doesn't look like you.

Tidbits from NYC Avvo Seminar

This legal tweets series brought to you via Andrea Cannavina aka @legaltypist, who did a great job covering this event and provided a ton of useful information:

legaltypist: Word of mouth referrals is going on line. #AVVO

legaltypist: Blogging is a micro site where you put your opinions and thoughts. More dynamic it is the more Search Engines will find you. #AVVO

legaltypist: Some sites now help attorneys share documents. JDSupra. #AVVO

legaltypist: Money and morning test. Where do you spend your money and what do you think about each morning? Should be your core web presence. #AVVO

legaltypist: In order to have an effective web presence, it doesn't need to be expensive. Once you have core, go out and network pointing back. #AVVO

legaltypist: Think strategically. Don't just hang out with lawyers. LinkedIn create site, but do consumers/target market congregate there? #AVVO

legaltypist: Reputation management. Everyone has an on line profile - whether you like it or not. #AVVO

legaltypist: Google Alerts helps you learn/monitor any one's name. #AVVO You should be monitoring your own. (My two cents: SocialMention's alerts are even better--allow you to track sentiment in the mentions as well)

legaltypist: AVVO republishes information from State Bar. All NY attorneys have a profile. #AVVO

legaltypist: To be an effective blogger you need personality. #AVVO

legaltypist: Effective blogs are written by real attrorneys with real voices. #AVVO

legaltypist: From groups and forums - point back to your blog, website or profile - your core web presence. Tells Google and search engines too. #AVVO

JeenaBelil: @MarkBritton doing a phenom job breaking down SM for lawyers in room #AVVO

legaltypist: If they are not talking about you - you don't exist. per @ThatLaywerDude #AVVO

legaltypist: You can't contribute to the conversation if you're not listening per @AriKaplan #AVVO

legaltypist: Per @JeenaBelil - its two jobs. One practicing law; the other marketing a practice. It's hard, but doable. per @JeenaBelil #AVVO

legaltypist: You should be spending at least 10% of your time marketing your practice. #AVVO

legaltypist: The things that you do on a daily basis, will come back to you on the yearly basis. per @ThatLawyerDude #AVVO

Law Schools Failing Their Clientele?

ronfox: Prized lawyers would not have left profession if LS fac. & staff made them aware of many options to practice consistent w/personal values.

btannebaum: @ronfox remember there are law students who don't view law as a profession, rather a money making vehicle

ronfox: @btannebaum I can't argue w/you but my concern is w/the 1000's who do view it as a profession who LS misplace in unprofessional settings

btannebaum: @ronfox I blame the law students and the law schools. Don't exempt the law student looking for the big salary

nikiblack: @ronfox Law students also have exorbitant student loans to pay back, so tough to blame them for wanting big $ when first out of school....

ronfox: @nikiblack I didn't blame any law students, just RTing @btannebaum but DO blame law schools for higher debt b/c unjustified tuition raises

btannebaum: @ronfox our problem is that we have law students taking jobs solely to pay off loans, having no passion for what they are doing

ronfox: @nikiblack I just finished reading GAO report to Congress on law school costs (poorly done but has tuition increases) http://bit.ly/mZXQd

ronfox: @nikiblack In my years advising law students I witnessed many w/o debt who were still diverted by LS OCI funnel to jobs in conflict w/values

nikiblack: @ronfox I hear you. Law schools are far too BigLaw focused & pressures on law students to conform (& thus be "successful") are so strong.

dougcornelius: @ronfox @nikiblack Its easier to get a job through LS OCI. Future employers come to YOU when you are 1/3 through law school.

ronfox: @dougcornelius Do you support OCI? While it's easier, it is the primary cause of student misplacement & should be ended & eliminated

dougcornelius: @ronfox OCI? It seems misplaced to be hiring for future partners after 1 year of law school.

dougcornelius: @ronfox I think small firms could participate in OCI. But they are smart enough to avoid it. They know a 2L can't help them.

ronfox: @dougcornelius Dsagree. OCI ONLY for those who commit 2 yrs ahead (old days) Basically 0% of businesses & non-profits in real world can

ronfox: @dougcornelius Also, small firms DID often hire 1Ls & 2Ls part-time&summer & did help. Often offered them, now trained, full-time on grad

ronfox: @btannebaum @nikiblack Dreaming of day LS closes doors if: cost not reasonable; not training to practice; & not teaching to follow passion

btannebaum: @ronfox law schools = profit centers for universities. Tuition is based on market demand. After LA Law, everyone wanted to be a Biglaw Atty

ronfox: @btannebaum Isn't the nickname for a university's law school "Cash Cow"? I read one reason for UMass public LS "bring $ to state coffers"

pwoldow: Need 2 rethink law school - from training 2 tuition RT @jkubicki Indeed! @ronfox Lame Solution 2 exorbitant LS tuition. http://bit.ly/iOsCh 

ronfox: knowing only how to think like lawyer upon grad today makes you dinosaur before you even being work http://bit.ly/1uSOp2

btannebaum: @ronfox when I went to law school, we had 5 in florida. Now we have 11